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  Meaningful Study

  by Awake at last in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i never thought i would be commenting, let alone starting a new topic in the category of bible research and study.

  anyone reading my comments on this site would have realised that i am the most unspiritual person to have ever stepped foot inside a kh.

  yet for the first time in my life, on saturday night, i did some meaningful bible study/research, on my own without a wtbts publication in sight, except the nwt bible.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  How did you find the Orgs way of studying?  Effective or not effective?

  It's the mental equivalent of "busy work". They call it "study", but it isn't really an intellectual activity. It's actually mind-numbing that allows for only one way of thinking. It's just a review of exactly what is printed right in front of you. No need to think, reason, or debate. No problem-solving skills required. And no room for opinion or originality! The only acceptable answer is right there like low-hanging fruit. Then when you say exactly what's in the paragraph, the conductor says, "Yes, very good! You're so smart and making such wonderful spiritual progress!"

  So it's as effective as a cult gets!

  For the sake of anyone that has forgotten what a WT "study" is like, here's a reminder:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeidZmxHLiY
  
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  Re: Art Skills Needed at Bethel

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all they want is some spiritually-qualified publishers blind individuals who believe they are god's mouthpiece on earth.

  no wonder their artwork is so poor.. .

  christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses2821 route 22, patterson, ny 12563-2237 phone: (845) 306-11001/8/15-e usjanuary 8, 2015to all congregations in the united states branch territoryre: art skills needed at betheldear brothers:the beautiful illustrations in our printed publications and on jw.org serve as teaching aidsthat emphasize spiritual truths from the bible.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  kids aren't allowed at Bethel

  Well, not for ordinary bethelites. But at Patterson, for example, there were bethelite attorneys like Mario Moreno that had a wife and kids in bethel housing, and Dr/Br. Schiller, and Sam Pate, for example. And there were some where the husband was a bethelite, but the wife wasn't.

  That's where the Bethel Book of Angles came into play. If some had the right skills/education, all kinds of exceptions were made to the usual rules.

  In this case, if they find someone with skills and kids, they'll try to get them to work remotely. They will gladly let them "pioneer" where they can count their hours as field service time. They might even kick in some money... but only as a last resort.

  But I've been gone a while, so I don't know what the GB 2.0 has changed in the Book of Angles. Although the fact that they've kicked out so many old-timers is proof that they've left the rules of GB 1.0 behind.
  
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  rama singh WHAT HE REALLY SAID, so you men can stop lying

  by atheist_R_stupid in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "there have been repeated scientific challenges to the.

  theory of evolution in the past, and the nonbelievers of evo-.

  lution cite them as support for their case.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Even the Bible says "there is no God" (2 Samuel, 1 Kings, 2 Kings, 1 Chronicles, 2 Chronicles, Psalms, Isaiah, 1 Corinthians). Awake!, The Watchtower, and other publications also state that in many instances.
  

  No need to check the context. That seems very clear.
  
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  Re: Art Skills Needed at Bethel

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all they want is some spiritually-qualified publishers blind individuals who believe they are god's mouthpiece on earth.

  no wonder their artwork is so poor.. .

  christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses2821 route 22, patterson, ny 12563-2237 phone: (845) 306-11001/8/15-e usjanuary 8, 2015to all congregations in the united states branch territoryre: art skills needed at betheldear brothers:the beautiful illustrations in our printed publications and on jw.org serve as teaching aidsthat emphasize spiritual truths from the bible.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Splash, some of the artsy types in bethel admitted that it was pretty dull working for WT. They were creative, but restricted to creating similar paradise scenes showing slightly different models and moving the waterfall from this side to that side. Or making bible scenes that they just really didn't enjoy creating.

  And in photography, they kept hoping the models would stay JWs in good standing until the publication went to print.
  
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  rama singh WHAT HE REALLY SAID, so you men can stop lying

  by atheist_R_stupid in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "there have been repeated scientific challenges to the.

  theory of evolution in the past, and the nonbelievers of evo-.

  lution cite them as support for their case.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  I think it is Anthony Morris trying out some material for his next talk:

  

  "So I went on the Interwebs and found a bunch of apostates and told them they were all stupid. Then I went out and bought a new watch and had a huge steak dinner. See how smart and successful I am, and I certainly never got any fancy degree."
  
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  Blondie's Comments on the 1-18-2015 WT Study (HOLY)

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  november 15, 2014 wt study issue.

  january 18, 2015 to be studied.

  opening comments.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Hmmm, how much liquor would I need to down to attend a KH meeting?
  

  

  "Okay Marge, I'm ready to go to the Kingdom Hall!"
  
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  Decided to sign up...

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i decided to sign up after many years of lurking.

  started researching after finding out about ray franz, which inevitably brought me to this site.. i'm still well and truly inn, but don't want to give any information out, i'm sure you guys know the reasons.. since "jay double you .

  org" came online, there has been a definite sense of hysteria with everyone who is "inn", and i get a feeling it's going to get a whole lot crazier as the years press on.. one point i would like to raise is that i feel, without a doubt, that 2034 is going to be the new finish line.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  We now know the kind of "higher education" that ToMo is condemning...

  Sesame Street!
  
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  Decided to sign up...

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i decided to sign up after many years of lurking.

  started researching after finding out about ray franz, which inevitably brought me to this site.. i'm still well and truly inn, but don't want to give any information out, i'm sure you guys know the reasons.. since "jay double you .

  org" came online, there has been a definite sense of hysteria with everyone who is "inn", and i get a feeling it's going to get a whole lot crazier as the years press on.. one point i would like to raise is that i feel, without a doubt, that 2034 is going to be the new finish line.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Welcome!

  Now that more JWs are getting Internet access, they need to have a look at these instructional videos to clarify some confusion the GB has caused with respect to the word "near" as in the phrase "the end is near":

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZhEcRrMA-M
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjcXOf77idY
  
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  Re: Art Skills Needed at Bethel

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all they want is some spiritually-qualified publishers blind individuals who believe they are god's mouthpiece on earth.

  no wonder their artwork is so poor.. .

  christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses2821 route 22, patterson, ny 12563-2237 phone: (845) 306-11001/8/15-e usjanuary 8, 2015to all congregations in the united states branch territoryre: art skills needed at betheldear brothers:the beautiful illustrations in our printed publications and on jw.org serve as teaching aidsthat emphasize spiritual truths from the bible.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  ... And wasn't it just a couple of years ago when they trotted out that "prodigal son" melodrama about the kid that was talented with designing video games... but he was a good JW, so he left that job and went back to working construction with his daddy and jealous brother? It was wrong for him to work in that tech field because there were sluts at work, it took to much time away from the cult activities, and the games were BAD.
  

  To me, it's a mixed message. But I came from the time when WT said, "college is bad! We need spiritual men and we'll teach them ALL the skills they'll need in bethel." Then when I was in bethel, the example I saw was, "attending college is bad, but there are a few graduates that are here and get the royal treatment. It's in the Bethel Book of Angles." Now they're a step further and make no mention of needing spiritual men. They go straight to the list of skills. I think they admit their hypocrisy when they practically admit they want people with degrees but nobody can pursue such degrees based on this request.

  Maybe I'm bitter and just see it that way. I have my degree now and couldn't imagine using any of my skills for that cult.
  
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  Re: Art Skills Needed at Bethel

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all they want is some spiritually-qualified publishers blind individuals who believe they are god's mouthpiece on earth.

  no wonder their artwork is so poor.. .

  christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses2821 route 22, patterson, ny 12563-2237 phone: (845) 306-11001/8/15-e usjanuary 8, 2015to all congregations in the united states branch territoryre: art skills needed at betheldear brothers:the beautiful illustrations in our printed publications and on jw.org serve as teaching aidsthat emphasize spiritual truths from the bible.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  BBWT, it's not just the ban on higher education. Someone with the kind of job skills to make more Caleb cartoons would most likely have been working for a company that made cartoons about... gasp... Warrior Wizards! And we all know that those are bad! Plenty of JWs have had to leave good careers because their work required too much time or involved government projects or R-rated movies.
  

  Effectively, this would be quite a fishing expedition to find JWs in good standing and with these skills and with the circumstances to go to bethel or work remotely for free.